Herbert could be extremely nasty, but not about this, and not to someone who'd just been kind to him. He was mostly impressed that Kurloz was apparently having heated make-out sessions when he was just 13 or 14.

"Oh ... so, you- I mean, I'm the first person you did it with in two years?" He wasn't sure what to make of that. Surely it couldn't have been because of a lack of partners? Kurloz seemed to have plenty of friends, he was good looking, friendly, likable. All the things that Herbert wasn't, really. "Why?"